Baseball’s most exclusive clubs

Babe Ruth

Twenty eight players have accumulated 3,000 hits or more. Twenty five players have hit 500 home runs or more. Pete Rose tops the hit list with 4,256, Roberto Clemente finished with exactly 3,000. Barry Bonds is the all time home run leader with 762, Eddie Murray squeaked over the line finishing with 504.

I wanted to take a deeper look at the 3,000 hit and 500 home run clubs to see what group actually produced the better hitters and overall players.

Below is a look at the 3,000 hit club.

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Are those twenty eight hitters the best hitters of all time? Some of them are, but some of the best hitters to ever play fall short of the mark including; Barry Bonds (2,935), Babe Ruth (2,873), Lou Gehrig (2,721), and Ted Williams (2,654).

The twenty eight members of the 3,000 hit club produced an average career slash line of .311/.382/.468. That’s an OPS of .851 with an OPS+ of 134. Those numbers all exceed the overall Hall of Fame averages of .303/.376/.461 with an OPS of .837 and a OPS+ OF 128.

Including Deacon White, there are now 146 position players enshrined in the Hall of Fame because of their MLB playing careers. That group of 146 produced an average WAR (Baseball-Reference) of 63.1 The average WAR for the members of the 3,000 hit club is 91.3.

Not surprisingly the members of the 3,000 hit club were better hitters than your average Hall of Famer, the grotesque WAR difference suggests they were also better overall players.

But are they better than the 500 home run club?

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Clearly this list features many of the best hitters ever to play, but there are some notable omissions as well. Ty Cobb played before home runs were really a thing, he finished with “only” 117. Gehrig falls just short of list with 493 homers, as does Stan Musial who hit 475.

The twenty five members of the 500 home run club produced an average career slash line of .292/.394/.550. That’s an OPS of .943 with an OPS+ of 152. Those numbers not only exceed the Hall of Fame averages, they top the numbers produced by the 3,000 hit club as well. The 3,000 hit club got more hits (obviously) yielding a higher batting average (.311-.292), however the sluggers drew more walks producing a higher OBP (.394-.382). Slugging percentage is a runaway for the home run group (.550-.468), as in OPS+ (152-134). The average WAR of each group is almost identical (91.3/90.5). If you prefer looking at the median of the groups, the 3,000 hit club gets the edge in WAR (87.9/79.2).

Each group produced a similar quality of overall players, however the 500 home run club produced the better group of hitters. Is there another group that perhaps bests them both?

Twenty one players finished their career (min 5,000 PA) with a batting average of .300 or more, an on-base percentage of .400 or higher, and a slugging percentage of .500 or greater.

Here is a look at the .300/.400/.500 group, sorted by plate appearances.

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Like the 3,000 hit and 500 home run clubs, this group includes many of the best hitters to ever play, and also has some notable omissions. Barry Bonds just missed (.298 AVG), as did Mickey Mantle (.298 AVG), and Jeff Bagwell (.297 AVG). Some of the other notable misses include Willie Mays (.384 OBP), Hank Aaron (.374 OBP), and Alex Rodriguez (.384 OBP). No hitter appears in all three groups.

The twenty one members of the .300/.400/.500 club produced an average career slash line of .330/.425/.563. That’s an OPS of .987 with an OPS+ of 161. Wow! The .300/.400/.500 group tops the 3,000 hit club in every rate stat including batting average (.330-.311). They top the 500 home run group in every rate state including slugging percentage (.563-.550). The .300/.400./500 club produced an average OPS+ of 161, only thirteen players in MLB history (min 5,000 PA) exceed that mark, nine are in this group.

Even though this group produced the better hitters or at least the better hitting numbers, the average WAR (91.8)  is almost identical two the other two clubs (91.3/90.5). If we use median the 3,000 hit group ranks first in WAR (87.9), followed by the .300/.400/.500 group at (81.5), and the home run group at 79.2

The players of the 3,000 hit group played longer than the other clubs and thus have more plate appearances and at-bats. The members of the slash line group on average had shorter careers resulting in fewer plate appearances, allowing their rate stats to stay higher.

In case you were wondering, it’s not like 5,000 plate appearances was some sort of magical cut off to prove a point. Drop the PA’s to a minimum of 3,000 and you only add another two players.

Lefty O’Doul played from 1919-1934 and finished his career with a slash line of .316/.415/.553 but did so in only 3,563 career plate appearances. O’Doul played in 100 games or more only six times in his career (28-33).

Joey Votto has a career slash line of .316/.415/.553 but has done so in only 3,064 plate appearances. Votto is still active, and still performing at his peak. Votto will not always be this good, but he does have enough of a cushion in all three categories that he will likely retire as the 22nd member of the actual group.

Alex Rodriguez will eventually become the 5th member to join both the 3,000 hit and 500 home run clubs. His hit total currently sits at 2,901. He should be a lock to eventually get to 3,000, but didn’t we used to say the same thing about him reaching Bonds’ career home run total?

Albert Pujols has a reasonable chance at becoming the first member of all three groups. His slash line of .325/.414/.608 gives him plenty of room to age and regress and still meet standards. Barring an injury or a career low home run total, he should join the 500 home run club late next season. Pujols currently has 2,246 hits. He is under contract for nine more years, he just needs to average 84 hits a season to reach the 3,000 hit plateau by the end of his contract. That seems very doable.

One other note, because the numbers used to the compile the averages are MLB stats only, it makes it impossible for me to include players who played exclusively in the Negro Leagues. Nothing has diluted stats and the integrity of the game like the exclusion of black players for over fifty years. While I can’t include them with these averages, I encourage you to visit the websites for the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum, and the National Baseball Hall of Fame to find out more about the many great players who were shamefully excluded from the game because of the color of their skin.

It’s also worth noting that sometimes FanGraphs and Baseball-Reference have slightly different numbers for the same player. For example, FanGraphs has Willie Mays with 12,493 plate appearances, Baseball-Reference has him at 12,496. These slight differences are common with historical players, the differences aren’t enough to skew the averages but it’s worth mentioning that the statistics represented in the charts above were compiled using data from Baseball-Reference.

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Originally posted 12/17/12

 

 

 

 

C-WAR Top 100 Position Players

Mickey Mantle-1953 By Bowman Gum [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

[caption id="attachment_1283" align="alignleft" width="555"] By Harris & Ewing (Library of Congress Harris & Ewing collection) [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons[/caption] C-WAR is a Hall of Fame monitoring system using career and peak WAR. C-WAR is the career WAR(P) totals from Baseball-Reference, FanGraphs, and Baseball Prospectus added up and averaged out, plus an eight year peak (five best years in a row, plus 3 best additional years) from Baseball-Reference. Click here for more information on C-WAR or here for an example of a full C-WAR chart.

Since I’m a nerd who enjoys lists, I wanted to post the top 100 position players by C-WAR.  Below is that list.

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Are those the top 100 position players every to play baseball? No, but it’s a pretty good start. Just for fun, here is next 100.

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Since Baseball Prospectus does not publish WAR data for players before 1950, this does create a bit of unfair advantage for those players. This is because of the three sites, Baseball Prospectus tends to have the lowest WAR values for a player (especially with pitchers), so it puts modern players (1950-present) at an unfair disadvantage. So to adjust for this, below is the top 100 excluding Baseball Prospectus’ WAR altogether.

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And the next 100 as well.

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I prefer this list to the one that includes BP’s WAR. Once BP publishes WAR data for every player, using all three will make more sense.

Baseball- Reference tends to represent the middle ground of value between all three sites. FanGraphs usually produces the highest WAR, followed by Baseball-Reference, and Baseball Prospectus. This is because each site has a different starting point for what a replacement level player is. FanGraphs has a lower starting point, thus produces higher WAR estimates. For example, Only four Hall of Fame position players have a greater rWAR (Baseball-Reference) than fWAR (FanGraphs). Those players are Cap Anson (91.1-86.9), Ozzie Smith (73.0-70.1), Ryne Sandberg (64.9-62.6), and Sam Thompson (42.1-40.6).

Since I calculated peak using only rWAR, below is the top 100 using just Baseball Reference’s WAR. Another words this is a player’s career WAR plus his eight year peak using on Baseball-Reference. FanGraphs and Baseball Prospectus are not factored in to the chart below at all.

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And the next 100:

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I like this list as well, having one constant is nice and rWAR is the most stable of the three but this list does depend solely on the estimates from one source. There are pros and cons to this, but this list works just fine, especially if you only use Baseball-Reference’s WAR. I prefer the 2nd list that also includes FanGraphs but think all three are valuable to look at.

One other note, because C-WAR focuses only on WAR, it makes it impossible for me to include players who played exclusively in the Negro Leagues with any of these calculations. Nothing has diluted stats and the integrity of the game like the exclusion of black players for over fifty years. While I can’t include them in C-WAR, I encourage you to visit the websites for the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum, and the National Baseball Hall of Fame to find out more about the players who likely would have cracked the top 100 had they simply been allowed to have played in the majors.

Many thanks to the incredibly smart people who work at Baseball-Reference, FanGraphs, and Baseball Prospectus. Without their tireless efforts to improve and maintain their sites and information none of this research would be possible.

Any questions or comments about the Hall, or a player listed or not listed above, send them to contact@replacementlevelpodcast.com or find me on Twitter @Rosscarey

Originally posted 10/24/12

 

 

C-WAR Top 100

Stan Musial-1953 By Bowman Gum [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

[caption id="" align="alignright" width="302"] Bob Gibson-Baseball Digest-1962
[Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons[/caption]C-WAR is a Hall of Fame monitoring system using career and peak WAR. C-WAR is the career WAR(P) totals from Baseball-Reference, FanGraphs, and Baseball Prospectus added up and averaged out, plus an eight year peak (five best years in a row, plus 3 best additional years) from Baseball-Reference. Click here for more information on C-WAR or here for an example of a full C-WAR chart.

Since I’m a nerd who enjoys lists, I wanted to post the top 100 players by C-WAR.  Below is that list.

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Are those the top 100 players every to play baseball? No, but it’s a pretty good start. Here are the players that just missed this list:

101 Ozzie Smith 114.0
102 Jackie Robinson 114.0
103 “Shoeless” Jackson 114.0
104 Lou Boudreau 113.8
105 Tim Raines 113.7
106 Barry Larkin 113.7

 

Since Baseball Prospectus does not publish WAR data for players before 1950, this does create a bit of unfair advantage for those players. This is because of the three sites, Baseball Prospectus tends to have the lowest WAR values for a player (especially with pitchers), so it puts modern players (1950-present) at an unfair disadvantage. So to adjust for this, below is the top 100 excluding Baseball Prospectus’ WAR altogether.

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Joe Cronin, Dazzy Vance, Sam Crawford, Bill Dahlen, and Willie McCovey fell off of this list entirely. Of that group only McCovey started his career after 1950. This version of the top 100 added Larry Walker, Ozzie Smith, Kevin Brown, Bobby Grich, and Roy Halladay, all of whom started their careers after 1950. Because BP values pitchers significantly lower than Baseball-Reference and FanGraphs, modern pitchers made the biggest jumps between the two lists. Nolan Ryan went from 72nd to 53rd, Fergie Jenkins went from 73rd to 54th, and Mike Mussina jumped from 82nd to 70th place.

Here are the players that just missed this list:

101 Andruw Jones 115.2
102 Alan Trammell 115.0
103 Juan Marichal 114.6
104 Rick Reuschel 114.5
105 Willie McCovey 114.5
106 Barry Larkin 114.5

 

I prefer this list to the one that includes BP’s WAR. Once BP publishes WAR data for every player, using all three will make more sense.

Baseball- Reference tends to represent the middle ground of value between all three sites. FanGraphs usually produces the highest WAR, followed by Baseball-Reference, and Baseball Prospectus. This is because each site has a different starting point for what a replacement level player is. FanGraphs has a lower starting point, thus produces higher WAR estimates. For example, Only four Hall of Fame position players have a greater rWAR (Baseball-Reference) than fWAR (FanGraphs). Those players are Cap Anson (91.1-86.9), Ozzie Smith (73.0-70.1), Ryne Sandberg (64.9-62.6), and Sam Thompson (42.1-40.6).

Since I calculated peak using only rWAR, below is the top 100 using just Baseball Reference’s WAR. Another words this is a player’s career WAR plus his eight year peak using on Baseball-Reference. FanGraphs and Baseball Prospectus are not factored in to the chart below at all.

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This list also includes Walker, Halladay, Grich and Smith. Not only does this list include Smith, he jumped up to 78th place. That big jump is directly attributed to how each site values and calculates defense.  This list also added Alan Trammell, Ryne Sandberg, Mickey Welch, Stan Covelski, and Al Spalding.

I like this list as well, having one constant is nice and rWAR is the most stable of the three but this list does depend solely on the estimates from one source. There are pros and cons to this, but this list works just fine, especially if you only use Baseball-Reference’s WAR. I prefer the 2nd list that also includes FanGraphs but think all three are valuable to look at.

Here are the players that just missed this list:

101 Carl Hubbell 113.1
102 Barry Larkin 112.8
103 Vic Willis 112.7
104 Kevin Brown 112.7
105 Dazzy Vance 112.6
106 Scott Rolen 112.3

 

So who’s missing? Jackie Robinson, Sandy Koufax, Manny Ramirez, Jim Thome, Juan Marichal, and Eddie Murray are among the notables not to make any of the lists. It would be impossible to make a list of the top 100 baseball players ever without including Robinson and Koufax, they both fall short of the C-WAR top 100 because of how brief their careers were. Robinson didn’t make his Major League debut until he was 28, Koufax threw his last pitch when he was only 30 years old. They didn’t accumulate enough career value, but their peaks are both top 100 (that’s another list). The other guys lose points because of their defensive shortcomings, and Marichal misses because WAR (along with traditional narrative) tends to overvalue pitchers from the late 1800′s and early 1900′s. Even with some of the notable omissions, these lists work. What do you think? What players surprised you the most?

One other note, because C-WAR focuses only on WAR, it makes it impossible for me to include players who played exclusively in the Negro Leagues with any of these calculations. Nothing has diluted stats and the integrity of the game like the exclusion of black players for over fifty years. While I can’t include them in C-WAR, I encourage you to visit the websites for the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum, and the National Baseball Hall of Fame to find out more about the players who likely would have cracked the top 100 had they simply been allowed to play in the majors.

Many thanks to the incredibly smart people who work at Baseball-Reference, FanGraphs, and Baseball Prospectus. Without their tireless efforts to improve and maintain their sites and information none of this research would be possible.

Any questions or comments about the Hall, or a player listed or not listed above, send them to contact@replacementlevelpodcast.com or find me on Twitter @Rosscarey

Originally posted 10/19/12

C-WAR Hall of Fame Project: Center Field

Willie Mays-1961-By New York World-Telegram and the Sun staff photographer, William C. Greene [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

[caption id="" align="alignright" width="315"] Willie Mays-Baseball Digest-1954
[Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons[/caption]C-WAR is a Hall of Fame monitoring system using career and peak WAR. C-WAR is the career WAR(P) totals from Baseball-Reference, FanGraphs, and Baseball Prospectus added up and averaged out, plus an eight year peak (five best years in a row, plus 3 best additional years) from Baseball-Reference. Click here for more information on C-WAR.

Hall of Fame standards vary by position, but a C-WAR score of 100 is usually the minimum of being Hall worthy. Ideally a player’s peak is 40+ (averaging 5 or more wins a year during their eight year peak) and his career average is 60+. The average C-WAR line for a Hall of Fame center fielder is: 73.8 career average/47.1 peak/121.0 C-WAR. Those are by far and away the highest standards at any position, only five center fielders enshrined in the Hall actually meet them. So many all-time great players played center field, Mays, Mantle, Cobb, and Speaker all greatly shift the averages up.  Obvious Hall of Famers like Duke Snider, Billy Hamilton, and Richie Ashburn fall short of those standards, that doesn’t mean they are not deserving, they are, as are several others. There are 20 center fielders currently enshrined in the Hall of Fame, three played exclusively in the Negro Leagues.

How to read the chart below:

The player’s name is followed by their career WAR from Baseball-Reference (BR), FanGraphs (FG), and Baseball Prospectus (BP). Those three numbers (or two, BP doesn’t publish historical WAR data prior to 1950) are averaged out (AVG). The AVG is the first half of C-WAR. Next you will find the player’s five best years in a row (BR-5), followed by the player’s three best additional seasons (BR-3), both according to Baseball- Reference’s WAR. Next to that is the total peak value (PK) of the five best years, and three best additional years added together. PK is the second half of C-WAR. Adding AVG+PK=C-WAR. The seasons next to PK are the five best years in a row (5 YEARS), followed by the three best additional years (3 YEARS +). The last number is C-WAR. Players highlighted in gold are members of the Hall of Fame. Players in blue are still active. You can zoom in and out of the chart with the magnifying glass symbols on the right, and download the entire PDF.

Please note that Baseball Prospectus’ WARP system is very unstable and produces frequent changes to a player’s value. The numbers below are up to date as of 11/24/12

Below is the chart for center fielders:

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Some notes on the chart:

1. Willie Mays 159.3 AVG/80.3 PK/239.6 C-WAR

Willie Mays averaged an incredible ten wins a year during his eight year peak, a peak that ranks 2nd all-time trailing only Babe Ruth’s. Mays finished with a slash line of .302/.384/.557 with an OPS of .941 and a OPS+ of 156, while also being one of the greatest defensive players the game has ever seen. Mays led the National League in home runs four times, stolen bases four times, on-base percentage twice, OPS five times, and OPS+ six times. Mays is one of just four players in history to finish his career with at least 3,000 hits and 500 home runs.  Using Baseball- Reference’s WAR Mays has six of the top 12 seasons a center fielder has ever had. From 1960-1969 Mays led the majors in WAR (Baseball- Reference) at 81.7.  Mays remains the greatest combination of power, speed, and defense the game has ever seen, many consider him to be the best ever to play, looking at his advanced and traditional numbers, it’s hard to argue that.

2. Ty Cobb 154.4 AVG/74.4 PK/228.8 C-WAR

Ty Cobb averaged 9.3 wins a year during his eight year peak. Cobb led the American League in batting average 11 times, on-base percentage 7 times, slugging percentage 8 times, OPS 10 times, and total bases 6 times. Cobb’s career average of .366 ranks first all-time, he also ranks top ten in wOBA, wRC+, and OBP. Cobb hit over .400 three different times (only two of those led the league), and his 4,189 hits ranks 2nd trailing only Pete Rose’s 4,256. From 1910-1919 Cobb led the majors in WAR (Baseball-Reference) worth 81.8 wins, eight more than the 2nd best player during that stretch, Tris Speaker. There is no disputing Cobb’s dominance, however he played his entire career in a segregated league when the game was still in it’s infancy. Taking all of his numbers at face value is a mistake.

3. Tris Speaker 135.2 AVG/66.9 PK/202.1 C-WAR

Not quite as good as his contemporary, Cobb, but still an all-time great Tris Speaker averaged 8.4 wins a year during his peak. In 1916 Speaker led the American League in batting average (.386), on-base percentage (.470), slugging percentage (.502) OPS (.972), and OPS+ at 186. Speaker finished his career with the most doubles ever hit (792), and is one of just 28 players to reach the 3,000 hit plateau. Among center fielders with at least 5,000 plate appearances Speaker ranks 2nd in batting average (.345), 4th in wOBA (.436), and third in wRC+ at 158. Speaker played his entire career in the segregated era.

4. Mickey Mantle 115.7 AVG/69.3 PK/185.0 C-WAR

Mickey Mantle averaged 8.7 wins a year during his eight year peak. From 1950-1959 Mantle’s WAR (Baseball-Reference) of 65.4 ranks 1st in all of baseball, ahead of fellow inner circle Hall of Famers, Stan Musial and Willie Mays. In 1957 Mantle posted a WAR of 11.1 (Baseball-Reference), that ties him with Ty Cobb as the best single season a center fielder has ever produced. Using Baseball-Reference’s WAR Mantle has three of the top ten seasons at center, including two of the top three. Mantle won the triple crown in 1956, and posted a WAR of 11.0 while doing so. Among center fielders with at least 5,000 plate appearances Mantle ranks 4th in on-base percentage (.421), 5th in wOBA (.431), and tied for 1st (with Cobb) in wRC+ at 171. His .977 OPS also ranks 1st, tied with Joe DiMaggio, but Mantle’s OPS+ of 172 stands alone.

5. Joe DiMaggio 83.6 AVG/54.2 PK/137.8 C-WAR

Joe DiMaggio averaged 6.8 wins a year during his peak. DiMaggio finished with a slash line of .325/.398/.579 with an OPS of .977 and an OPS+ of 155. Among center fielders with at least 5,000 plate appearances DiMaggio ranks 1st in slugging percentage (.579), 3rd in wOBA (.439), and 5th in wRC+ at 153. DiMaggio missed all of his age 28-30 seasons (43-45), due to his military service in World War Two. All of his numbers both traditional and advanced would be significantly higher had he never served

6. Ken Griffey Jr. 80.8 AVG/56.6 PK/137.4 C-WAR

Ken Griffey Jr. averaged 7.1 wins a year during his eight year peak. Griffey led the American League in home runs four times, and total bases twice. From 1990-1999 Griffey’s WAR of 65 (Baseball-Reference) ranks 2nd in all of baseball trailing only Barry Bonds’ 77.9. Griffey finished his career with 630 home runs, ranking 2nd among center fielders, and 6th all-time. Griffey was a complete player during his peak, however injuries robbed him of both his offensive dominance and defensive greatness later in his career. Griffey has no suspicions or whispers of steroid use against him, so he need not worry about the BBWAA moral police keeping him out of the Hall of Fame. Griffey will be inducted his first year on the ballot, rightfully so.

7. Duke Snider 67.4 AVG/52.4 PK/119.8 C-WAR

Snider averaged 6.6 wins a year during his peak, and led the National league in total bases three times. Snider’s slugging percentage of .540 ranks 5th among center fielders with at least 5,000 plate appearances, his .919 OPS ranks 8th. Snider suffers from the comparisons to Mays and Mantle, he wasn’t as good as either of his Hall of Fame contemporaries but that doesn’t mean his enshrinement in the Hall is undeserved.

8. Andruw Jones 63.4 AVG/49.4 PK/112.8 C-WAR (and counting)

Andruw Jones averaged 6.2 wins a year during his peak. Jones is one of five center fielders with 400 or more career home runs, but it’s Jones’ combination of defense and offense that makes him a deserving Hall of Famer. Using the defensive metrics at FanGraphs, Jones ranks as the best defensive center fielder of all-time saving 280 runs over his career, a number that trails only Brooks Robinson’s 294. Jones belongs in the company of other all-time great defensive players/Hall of Famers like Robinson, and Ozzie Smith. Jones is a better hitter than Smith, that much is for sure, and he ranks higher than Robinson in several key offensive categories as well, but again neither Smith or Robinson are in the Hall because of their offense. They were both elected to the Hall of Fame with over 90% of the vote their first year on the ballot because of their defensive excellence, somehow I doubt Jones will be given the same treatment. Perhaps it’s because Jones petered out by the time he hit 30, he fell off the cliff in a way most Hall of Famers don’t. When Jones hit 30, he got out of shape and no longer had the speed to cover ground in the outfield like he used to, or the bat speed necessary to be an elite power hitter anymore. However Jones broke in when he was 19, and started just about every game when he was 20. From 1997-2006 Jones’ first ten full seasons in the league, his WAR was 55.5 (Baseball-Reference) ranking third in all of baseball trailing only Barry Bonds and Ken Griffey Jr. Jones won’t get into the Hall of Fame, at least not by the BBWAA, his omission will be a mistake and serve as another example of the inconsistent admission standards.

9. Richie Ashburn 63.9 AVG/47.2 PK/111.1 C-WAR

Richie Ashburn averaged 5.9 wins a year during his eight year peak. Ashburn led the National League in batting average twice, and on-base percentage four times. From 1950-1959 Ashburn’s WAR of 48.3 (Baseball-Reference) ranked 6th in the majors, behind only fellow Hall of Famers Mickey Mantle, Stan Musial, Willie Mays, Duke Snider, and Eddie Mathews.

10. Jim Edmonds 63 AVG/45.4 PK/108.4 C-WAR

Jim Edmonds averaged 5.7 wins a year during his eight year peak. Edmonds was an excellent defensive player and power hitter. He finished his career with 393 home runs, 6th among center fielders. Among center fielders with at least 5,000 plate appearances Edmonds ranks 8th in slugging percentage (.527), and 10th in OPS at .903. Edmonds has no black ink on his Hall of Fame resume, that doesn’t help his case. I would vote him in, but his credentials are borderline.

11. Billy Hamilton 63.4 AVG/46.3 PK/109.7 C-WAR

Billy Hamilton averaged 5.8 wins a year during his peak. Hamilton led the National League in on-base percentage five times, and OPS twice. Among center fielders with at least 5,000 plate appearances Hamilton ranks 3rd in batting average (.344), 1st in on-base percentage (.455), 2nd in wOBA (.447) and 6th in wRC+ at 150. Hamilton played his entire career when the game was segregated and still developing, taking his numbers at face value is a mistake.

12. Kenny Lofton 62.3 AVG/45.8 PK/108.1 C-WAR

Kenny Lofton averaged 5.7 wins a year during his eight year peak. Using the defensive metrics at FanGraphs, Lofton ranks 7th among center fielders with 114 runs saved, he also ranks 6th in stolen bases with 622. That’s what Lofton was, an elite combination of defensive and speed. He also was a career .299 hitter with a .372 on-base percentage. Lofton played during a time when the home run was king and people weren’t noticing defensive and base running like they had in years past. The BBWAA has since discredit (unfairly) most of the home run hitters who played in the 90′s and early 2000′s. One would think with power being devalued, Hall of Fame voters would put more weight on defense and speed, and turn their attention to players like Lofton. 2013 will be Lofton’s first year on the Hall of Fame ballot, and unfortunately, likely his last.

13. Reggie Smith 66.6 AVG/40.5 PK/107.1 C-WAR

Reggie Smith averaged 5.1 wins a year during his eight year peak. Smith was undervalued for much of his playing career, but was a consistent performer for nearly fifteen years. From 1967-1980 Smith’s WAR of 58.6 (Baseball-Reference) ranked 7th in baseball. There are several reasons why players can get undervalued or overlooked during their careers. Overshadowed by a better teammate (Yastrzemski), late bloomers (not in this case), not excelling at any one thing (yup), played in a small market (nope), no clear primary position (mostly OF some 1B), several other great players playing your position league wide (not really). Whatever the reason, Smith was seemingly never given the credit he deserved when he played. He’s a borderline Hall of Famer, who was a better player than at least eight center fielders enshrined in the Hall, that’s pretty good.

14. Carlos Beltran 61.5 AVG/45.3 PK/106.8 C-WAR

Carlos Beltran averaged 5.7 wins a year during his eight year peak. Beltran is one of just eight players with 300 or more home runs and stolen bases. Beltran is an elite base runner, among integration era (1947-present) players with 300 steals or more, Beltran’s stolen base percentage of 87% ranks 1st. From 2000-2009 Beltran’s WAR (Baseball-Reference) of 48.8 ranked 6th in the majors, ahead of people like Chipper Jones, Derek Jeter, Vlad Guerrero, and Manny Ramirez. For some, Beltran is that guy who never lived up to his massive contract, that guy who didn’t swing at the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS, or that guy that was too often injured to ever be considered great, that’s a shame if that’s all they see, they are missing a Hall of Fame career.

15. Jimmy Wynn 60.7 AVG/45.3 PK/106.0 C-WAR

Jimmy Wynn averaged 5.7 wins a year during his peak, and twice led the National League in walks. Wynn like Smith was underrated when he played. From from 1965-1974 Wynn’s WAR (Baseball-Reference) of 47 ranked 5th in baseball behind only Carl Yastrzemski, Hank Aaron, Pete Rose, and Roberto Clemente. Wynn’s career batting average of .250 was likely the main reason why he fell off the Hall of Fame ballot his first year on it without receiving one vote. I wouldn’t put Wynn in the Hall but he is borderline and was a better player than at least seven center fielders enshrined.

Since Baseball Prospectus does not publish WAR data for players before 1950, this does create a bit of unfair advantage for those players. This is because of the three sites, Baseball Prospectus tends to have the lowest WAR values for a player (especially with pitchers), so it puts modern players (1950-present) at an unfair disadvantage. So to adjust for this, below is the center fielders chart excluding Baseball Prospectus’ WAR altogether.

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Kenny Lofton experienced a significant bump up on this list. His C-WAR score went from 108.1 to 111.4, and he moved up three places.

Since I calculated peak using only rWAR, below is the chart using just Baseball Reference’s WAR. Another words this is a player’s career WAR plus his eight year peak using on Baseball-Reference. FanGraphs and Baseball Prospectus are not factored in to the chart below at all.

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This list produced only modest changes from the previous one, I fine all three valuable to look at.

Because C-WAR focuses only on WAR, it makes it impossible for me to include Negro League players who have been elected to the Hall of Fame. Nothing compromised the numbers or integrity of the game like the exclusion of black players for over fifty years. While I can’t include them in C-WAR, I do want to mention Cristóbal Torriente, Turkey Stearnes, and Cool Papa Bell all were elected to the Hall of Fame as center fielders. Who knows how great they could have been, or how different the record book would look if they were all simply allowed to have played in the majors.

Many thanks to the incredibly smart people who work at Baseball-Reference, FanGraphs, and Baseball Prospectus. Without their tireless efforts to improve and maintain their sites and information none of this research would be possible.

Any questions or comments about the Hall, or a player listed or not listed above, send them to contact@replacementlevelpodcast.com or find me on Twitter @Rosscarey

Originally posted 8/8/12

Updated 11/24/12